Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries

[Gas Bag]

I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. Once they drink some water....game over. I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

[jamesgangnc]

Post by Gas Bag
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder.  They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water.  Once they drink some water....game over.  I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.
- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water?  The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.
- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice?  e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)?  I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.
- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?
I really would appreciate some advice.  Thanks.

Never heard that one. But any bait poison runs the risk of the animal
dying somewhere in your house. In 99% of the cases the carcase just
dries up. Or flys find it and it gets eaten by maggots.

[Frank]

Post by jamesgangnc

Post by Gas Bag
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. Once they drink some water....game over. I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.
- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.
- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.
- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?
I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard that one. But any bait poison runs the risk of the animal
dying somewhere in your house. In 99% of the cases the carcase just
dries up. Or flys find it and it gets eaten by maggots.

I agree. You take a chance with poison baits in the house. After
getting one bad stink a couple of years ago from a poisoned mouse, I now
use traps only.

I don't know about flour/cement but rats do not have a throwing up
reflex and once they eat something, it has to pass through their
digestive system where it may kill them.

[Gilla Badaloo]

replying to Frank, Gilla Badaloo wrote:
I have done it before. Jamaicans always do this and its a real killer, lol, I
just set some as well. I have to do it like once every 3 years. So now is a
bit later than usual but I saw a mice and I have to get rid of it. The point.
The instant they consume the mixture, they do realize something odd and just
like us, we want something to flush it down, so they search, i normally set a
container cause I am a nice rat killer. Yes you may put cheese and meat to
attract them, It is just an additional treat. Oh, the smell, get prepared, its
either you deal with the smell or you deal with leptustirosis. I choses smell.
I allow my pup to search and then we keep a memorial.

[Pen68]

replying to Gilla Badaloo, Pen68 wrote:
How do you make it? My rodents are smart and nothing is working. I put steel
wool in the opening that they were coming in so apparently they made another
somewhere else

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[Gmcman28]

replying to Pen68, Gmcman28 wrote:
Spray foam !! Used it in the storage locker where my boss used to store his
Potato Chips. Quit having mouse problems after that..

[Gum Boocho]

replying to Frank, Gum Boocho wrote:
IMHO traps may not work since the mice may continue & reproduce while you kill
a lot of mice without extermination.

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[Antoinette Blunt]

replying to Gum Boocho, Antoinette Blunt wrote:
At the same time the reproducing mice have to eat and so do their off springs,
so in a since you're killing two birds with one stone. Plus you are stopping
their future existence.

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[Jas]

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[Harry K]

Post by Gas Bag
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder.  They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water.  Once they drink some water....game over.  I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.
- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water?  The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.
- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice?  e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)?  I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.
- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?
I really would appreciate some advice.  Thanks.

Never heard that one.  But any bait poison runs the risk of the animal
dying somewhere in your house.  In 99% of the cases the carcase just
dries up.  Or flys find it and it gets eaten by maggots.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Yep. I find that D-Con works wonders and the animals don't smell for
some reason. I keep a bait box with it in the basement and find and
occasional dead mouse - never smelled one for many a year now.

The 'flour/cement' is an oldy home recipe. Just as enticing to pets
as it is to rodents. Needs to be in places the pets can't get to just
like any commercial poison.

Harry K

[Bob Villa]

Post by Gas Bag
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder.  They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water.  Once they drink some water....game over.  I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.
- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water?  The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.
- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice?  e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)?  I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.
- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?
I really would appreciate some advice.  Thanks.

Never heard that one.  But any bait poison runs the risk of the animal
dying somewhere in your house.  In 99% of the cases the carcase just
dries up.  Or flys find it and it gets eaten by maggots.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Yep.  I find that D-Con works wonders and the animals don't smell for
some reason.  I keep a bait box with it in the basement and find and
occasional dead mouse - never smelled one for many a year now.
The 'flour/cement' is an oldy home recipe.  Just as enticing to pets
as it is to rodents.  Needs to be in places the pets can't get to just
like any commercial poison.
Harry K

Maybe it's D-CONcrete in it dat kills 'em!

[Oren]

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:30:41 -0800 (PST), Harry K

Post by Harry K
Yep. I find that D-Con works wonders and the animals don't smell for
some reason. I keep a bait box with it in the basement and find and
occasional dead mouse - never smelled one for many a year now

Interesting. MY grandfather used D-Con around his place in the 50s.
After heavy rains the rats would head for a puddle of water to drink
and die. They did smell nasty I recall. Luckily they went outside to
drink.

[Brooklyn1]

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

If you have rodents in your attic then you are very remiss in sealing
their entry to your house... believe it or not it is quite easy to
eliminate entryways. Seal your house and if rodents are still present
set traps... they obviously have free roam of your entire house
because rodents cannot live without food and water... also eliminate
their access to your food... you are definitely feeding those critters
or they'd not be there.

[Una]

HA. No way I can seal openings to my house...I'd have to rebuild the monster. BUT one benefit, I do have a huge carpet snake who reigns supreme in the roof cavity and have had no rats/mice since in there. BUT the sheds on our place are home sweet home to them and I do use poison there to control the numbers. ALWAYs make sure the bait is inside a container to keep domestic pets, owls, children from getting into it. OR fasten the pellets w holes thru em with wire to weights so rodents can't drag it outside. which they will do. then u risk killing pets, kids, raptors etc. a big NO NO.
I use the flour/cement so there's no risk of secondary kill...altho I'm sure anything eating a rat w cement guts will get severe indigestion- i'm hoping they're smart enough to spit out the bad bits. Another thing, when u find dead rodents from baiting...please do bury them really deep, perhaps w a rock on em too to protect wildlife

[LSMFT]

Post by Gas Bag
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. Once they drink some water....game over. I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.
- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.
- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.
- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?
I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

An overdose of vitamin D will kill them, use that.

[ransley]

Post by Gas Bag
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder.  They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water.  Once they drink some water....game over.  I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.
- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water?  The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.
- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice?  e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)?  I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.
- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?
I really would appreciate some advice.  Thanks.

Then if it worked why wouldnt someone be selling it. My dogs wont eat
cement I dont think a rat will. I use poison inside, traps are a pain.
The smell of a dead mose is gone in a week and so are all the mice.
With traps its a constant battle you dont know if you ever win. Do
both, traps and poison

[Billy]

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Post by ransley

Post by Gas Bag
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder.  They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water.  Once they drink some water....game over.  I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.
- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water?  The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.
- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice?  e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)?  I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.
- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?
I really would appreciate some advice.  Thanks.

Then if it worked why wouldnt someone be selling it. My dogs wont eat
cement I dont think a rat will. I use poison inside, traps are a pain.
The smell of a dead mose is gone in a week and so are all the mice.
With traps its a constant battle you dont know if you ever win. Do
both, traps and poison

Be careful of where you put the poison. I lost 2 cats last year to
poisoning, cats that were encouraged by neighbors, because they were
"mousers".

[Brooklyn1]

Post by Billy
Be careful of where you put the poison. I lost 2 cats last year to
poisoning, cats that were encouraged by neighbors, because they were
"mousers".

Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS... you need to be
poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack with a few
bricks and toss you into a lake.

[jellybean stonerfish]

Post by Brooklyn1

Post by Billy
Be careful of where you put the poison. I lost 2 cats last year to
poisoning, cats that were encouraged by neighbors, because they were
"mousers".

Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS... you need to be
poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack with a few
bricks and toss you into a lake.

Why would you keep your cats locked up inside?

Animal cruelty.

[willshak]

Post by jellybean stonerfish

Post by Brooklyn1

Post by Billy
Be careful of where you put the poison. I lost 2 cats last year to
poisoning, cats that were encouraged by neighbors, because they were
"mousers".

Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS... you need to be
poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack with a few
bricks and toss you into a lake.

Why would you keep your cats locked up inside?
Animal cruelty.

Keeps them clean and free of burrs, ticks, and fleas. Keeps them from
getting killed by cars, dogs, or cat haters, or being carried away by hawks.

[Bob F]

Post by willshak

Post by jellybean stonerfish

Post by Brooklyn1

Post by Billy
Be careful of where you put the poison. I lost 2 cats last year to
poisoning, cats that were encouraged by neighbors, because they
were "mousers".

Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS... you need to
be poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack with a
few bricks and toss you into a lake.

Why would you keep your cats locked up inside?
Animal cruelty.

Keeps them clean and free of burrs, ticks, and fleas. Keeps them from
getting killed by cars, dogs, or cat haters, or being carried away by hawks.

And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted veggies and
pooping in their spinach.

I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of neighbor's
uncontrolled cats.

[aemeijers]

Post by Bob F

Post by willshak

Post by jellybean stonerfish

Post by Brooklyn1

Post by Billy
Be careful of where you put the poison. I lost 2 cats last year to
poisoning, cats that were encouraged by neighbors, because they
were "mousers".

Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS... you need to
be poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack with a
few bricks and toss you into a lake.

Why would you keep your cats locked up inside?
Animal cruelty.

Keeps them clean and free of burrs, ticks, and fleas. Keeps them from
getting killed by cars, dogs, or cat haters, or being carried away by hawks.

And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted veggies and
pooping in their spinach.
I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of neighbor's
uncontrolled cats.

Better that than a smelly cat box (and yes, they ALL do smell- the
owners are just desensitized), and a cat that starts trashing furniture
and becoming crazy and/or obese from lack of stimulation and exercise.
And before you say it, I consider declawing to be animal cruelty. How
would you like the last joint of all your fingers and toes cut off?

Sorry, 'indoor only' cats may live longer, but they aren't cats any
more. I could never do that to a sentient creature.

[Bob F]

Post by aemeijers

Post by Bob F
And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted
veggies and pooping in their spinach.
I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of
neighbor's uncontrolled cats.

Better that than a smelly cat box (and yes, they ALL do smell- the
owners are just desensitized), and a cat that starts trashing
furniture and becoming crazy and/or obese from lack of stimulation
and exercise. And before you say it, I consider declawing to be
animal cruelty. How would you like the last joint of all your fingers
and toes cut off?
Sorry, 'indoor only' cats may live longer, but they aren't cats any
more. I could never do that to a sentient creature.

But you have no hesitation to do a number on your neighbors with your cats.

[Brooklyn1]

Post by Bob F

Post by aemeijers

Post by Bob F
And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted
veggies and pooping in their spinach.
I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of
neighbor's uncontrolled cats.

Better that than a smelly cat box (and yes, they ALL do smell- the
owners are just desensitized), and a cat that starts trashing
furniture and becoming crazy and/or obese from lack of stimulation
and exercise. And before you say it, I consider declawing to be
animal cruelty. How would you like the last joint of all your fingers
and toes cut off?
Sorry, 'indoor only' cats may live longer, but they aren't cats any
more. I could never do that to a sentient creature.

But you have no hesitation to do a number on your neighbors with your cats.

People who put house cats out can't possibly care about their pets any
more than people who put their five year olds out to play on the
freeway. Domesticated cats are not ferral, they have very few outdoor
survival skills if any. Most folks who are annoyed by their neighbors
pet cats will shoot them. .177 pellet guns make no noise and leave no
identifying traces.. more cats die from gun shot than from any other
cause. Anyone who puts a house cat out because they think they are
harming a sentient creature by keeping it indoors is a pinhead with a
lower IQ than any cat. And cats don't smell, not unless they are ill.
Exuding no odor is just one way how nature made felines one of the
best hunters on the planet, which is why they also bury their waste,
the only animal that does. Naturally the lazy bastards that don't
regularly clean the cat box are who smell, not the cat. Humans
smell... and I'm positive if I ever visited your terlits I'd about die
from the stench.

[Billy]

Post by Brooklyn1

Post by Bob F

Post by aemeijers

Post by Bob F
And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted
veggies and pooping in their spinach.
I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of
neighbor's uncontrolled cats.

Better that than a smelly cat box (and yes, they ALL do smell- the
owners are just desensitized), and a cat that starts trashing
furniture and becoming crazy and/or obese from lack of stimulation
and exercise. And before you say it, I consider declawing to be
animal cruelty. How would you like the last joint of all your fingers
and toes cut off?
Sorry, 'indoor only' cats may live longer, but they aren't cats any
more. I could never do that to a sentient creature.

But you have no hesitation to do a number on your neighbors with your cats.

(1)

Post by Brooklyn1
People who put house cats out can't possibly care about their pets any
more than people who put their five year olds out to play on the
freeway.

(2)

Post by Brooklyn1
Domesticated cats are not ferral, they have very few outdoor
survival skills if any.

(3)

Post by Brooklyn1
Most folks who are annoyed by their neighbors
pet cats will shoot them. .177 pellet guns make no noise and leave no
identifying traces.. more cats die from gun shot than from any other
cause.

(4)

Post by Brooklyn1
Anyone who puts a house cat out because they think they are
harming a sentient creature by keeping it indoors is a pinhead with a
lower IQ than any cat.
And cats don't smell, not unless they are ill.
Exuding no odor is just one way how nature made felines one of the
best hunters on the planet, which is why they also bury their waste,
the only animal that does.
Naturally the lazy bastards that don't
regularly clean the cat box are who smell, not the cat. Humans
smell... and I'm positive if I ever visited your terlits I'd about die
from the stench.

God, where to begin?

(1) Citation other than your backside, please. Can you name a study
supporting this view?

(2) Learn spelling and meaning of word before you use it.
Feral (F-E-R-A-L): in a wild state, esp. after escape from captivity or
domestication : a feral cat. Domesticated cats are not feral by
definition.

(3) The leading causes of death in cats: Feline diabetes, AIDS, and
Kidney failure.

(4) People will let a cat out, because that is where the cat wants to be.
I'm sure with exercise, you could grow up to be a pin-head yourself.

(5) "Exuding no odor is just one way how nature made felines one of the
best hunters on the planet."- Citation please to support this statement.

Cats have scent glands along the tail, on each side of their head, on
their lips, base of their tail, chin, near their sex organs, and between
their front paws. They use these glands to scent mark their territory.
When the cat rubs you, he is marking you with his scent, claiming you as
"his." Too, he is picking up your scent. Cats rub up against furniture
or doorways for the same reason - to mark the item as "his". (Urine
spraying is also a territorial marking, by the way.)
<http://www.xmission.com/~emailbox/whycat.htm>
----

Shelly is our group's version of Ruppert Murdock's Fox News. The more
you listen to him, the less you know.

[Billy]

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Post by Billy

Post by Brooklyn1

Post by Bob F

Post by aemeijers

Post by Bob F
And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted
veggies and pooping in their spinach.
I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of
neighbor's uncontrolled cats.

Better that than a smelly cat box (and yes, they ALL do smell- the
owners are just desensitized), and a cat that starts trashing
furniture and becoming crazy and/or obese from lack of stimulation
and exercise. And before you say it, I consider declawing to be
animal cruelty. How would you like the last joint of all your fingers
and toes cut off?
Sorry, 'indoor only' cats may live longer, but they aren't cats any
more. I could never do that to a sentient creature.

But you have no hesitation to do a number on your neighbors with your cats.

(1)

Post by Brooklyn1
People who put house cats out can't possibly care about their pets any
more than people who put their five year olds out to play on the
freeway.

(2)

Post by Brooklyn1
Domesticated cats are not ferral, they have very few outdoor
survival skills if any.

(3)

Post by Brooklyn1
Most folks who are annoyed by their neighbors
pet cats will shoot them. .177 pellet guns make no noise and leave no
identifying traces.. more cats die from gun shot than from any other
cause.

(4)

Post by Brooklyn1
Anyone who puts a house cat out because they think they are
harming a sentient creature by keeping it indoors is a pinhead with a
lower IQ than any cat.

(5)
And cats don't smell, not unless they are ill.
Exuding no odor is just one way how nature made felines one of the
best hunters on the planet, which is why they also bury their waste,
the only animal that does.

Post by Billy

Post by Brooklyn1
Naturally the lazy bastards that don't
regularly clean the cat box are who smell, not the cat. Humans
smell... and I'm positive if I ever visited your terlits I'd about die
from the stench.

God, where to begin?
(1) Citation other than your backside, please. Can you name a study
supporting this view?
(2) Learn spelling and meaning of word before you use it.
Feral (F-E-R-A-L): in a wild state, esp. after escape from captivity or
domestication : a feral cat. Domesticated cats are not feral by
definition.
(3) The leading causes of death in cats: Feline diabetes, AIDS, and
Kidney failure.
(4) People will let a cat out, because that is where the cat wants to be.
I'm sure with exercise, you could grow up to be a pin-head yourself.
(5) "Exuding no odor is just one way how nature made felines one of the
best hunters on the planet."- Citation please to support this statement.
Cats have scent glands along the tail, on each side of their head, on
their lips, base of their tail, chin, near their sex organs, and between
their front paws. They use these glands to scent mark their territory.
When the cat rubs you, he is marking you with his scent, claiming you as
"his." Too, he is picking up your scent. Cats rub up against furniture
or doorways for the same reason - to mark the item as "his". (Urine
spraying is also a territorial marking, by the way.)
<http://www.xmission.com/~emailbox/whycat.htm>

In feral cat colonies, subordinate cats cover their waste, while
dominant ferals leave it conspicuously uncovered. Most indoor cats bury
their waste, possibly to display subordination to their humans.
Sometimes in multi-cat households, however, the dominant cat will leave
waste uncovered to indicate his status.
<Ibid>

Post by Billy
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Shelly is our group's version of Ruppert Murdock's Fox News. The more
you listen to him, the less you know.

[Sassy]

replying to Billy, Sassy wrote:
Lol, that was really funny but you told them

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[Rusty Fox]

replying to Brooklyn1, Rusty Fox wrote:
Yet further evidence that you are uneducated. Only one 'r' in 'feral'. I'm
surprised you could spell IQ correctly! Now, do you know what IQ means? Of
course not...

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[Yo]

replying to Brooklyn1, Yo wrote:
Okay so they're one of the best hunters on the planet yet simultaneously have
no survival skills. Dude get out of here with your alternative facts. I'm
sorry someone shot your cat once but that's very rare and if its not I want
cited proof, not your word.

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[David]

more cats die from gun shot than from any other cause.

Old age no longer factors into the death of cats?

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[GearGirl81]

Wow could you possibly be more ignorant?! Cats have this little thing they do, ya might of heard of it before, it's called "instinct"... Where do you believe that comes from??? Humans did not create cats either, however humans were the ones to forcibly domesticate them. I've never once come across one of the creatures on the "right side" of any door. Most do prefer to be outside fyi, regardless of what your preferences are. Let me guess, you're probably one of those vegan activists who've also went against what's scientifically proven to be best for proper feline health, only feeding the poor malnourished thing to eat only salads... People like you should have to take a full course in how to properly and HUMANLY car for any/all pets

[rbowman]

Post by GearGirl81
Wow could you possibly be more ignorant?! Cats have this little thing
they do, ya might of heard of it before, it's called "instinct"... Where
do you believe that comes from??? Humans did not create cats either,
however humans were the ones to forcibly domesticate them. I've never
once come across one of the creatures on the "right side" of any door.
Most do prefer to be outside fyi, regardless of what your preferences are.

Cat seems happy sitting on my lap getting petted but it's chilly and
rainy outside. If he gets the urge to go out he know enough to scratch
on the door. I didn't exactly domesticate him either. He was pretty
feral when I put some food out for other cats but soon decided regular
meals were a good thing and became territorial.

[Peeler]

On Wed, 19 May 2021 19:47:01 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

Post by rbowman
Cat seems happy sitting on my lap getting petted but it's chilly and
rainy outside. If he gets the urge to go out he know enough to scratch
on the door. I didn't exactly domesticate him either. He was pretty
feral when I put some food out for other cats but soon decided regular
meals were a good thing and became territorial.

What got the cat to say about your endless self-admiring gossiping, senile
bigmouth? Or will you stay quiet for a short time (which I don't believe)
when he allegedly sits on your senile lap, so close to your ever-prattling
gob?

[Tekkie©]

On Wed, 19 May 2021 19:47:01 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...

Post by rbowman

Post by GearGirl81
Wow could you possibly be more ignorant?! Cats have this little thing
they do, ya might of heard of it before, it's called "instinct"... Where
do you believe that comes from??? Humans did not create cats either,
however humans were the ones to forcibly domesticate them. I've never
once come across one of the creatures on the "right side" of any door.
Most do prefer to be outside fyi, regardless of what your preferences are.

Cat seems happy sitting on my lap getting petted but it's chilly and
rainy outside. If he gets the urge to go out he know enough to scratch
on the door. I didn't exactly domesticate him either. He was pretty
feral when I put some food out for other cats but soon decided regular
meals were a good thing and became territorial.

Cats are cats. Mine likes regular food, litter box, pets, etc. She trained me,
not the other way around. Rescue cat. Must be a PETA poster.

[rbowman]

Post by Tekkie©
On Wed, 19 May 2021 19:47:01 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...

Post by rbowman

Post by GearGirl81
Wow could you possibly be more ignorant?! Cats have this little thing
they do, ya might of heard of it before, it's called "instinct"... Where
do you believe that comes from??? Humans did not create cats either,
however humans were the ones to forcibly domesticate them. I've never
once come across one of the creatures on the "right side" of any door.
Most do prefer to be outside fyi, regardless of what your preferences are.

Cat seems happy sitting on my lap getting petted but it's chilly and
rainy outside. If he gets the urge to go out he know enough to scratch
on the door. I didn't exactly domesticate him either. He was pretty
feral when I put some food out for other cats but soon decided regular
meals were a good thing and became territorial.

Cats are cats. Mine likes regular food, litter box, pets, etc. She trained me,
not the other way around. Rescue cat. Must be a PETA poster.

This one isn't big on pets. There are a couple of other cats that he
will tolerate eating from his bowl but mostly any cat that wanders in
the yard is in for an ass-kicking. A friendly tabby was rubbing my legs
when I was getting in the car yesterday so I put some Friskies in a dish
for her at the end of the driveway. No go. He left his full bowl to run
her off.

[Peeler]

On Thu, 20 May 2021 20:06:58 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

Post by rbowman
This one isn't big on pets. There are a couple of other cats that he
will tolerate eating from his bowl but mostly any cat that wanders in
the yard is in for an ass-kicking. A friendly tabby was rubbing my legs
when I was getting in the car yesterday so I put some Friskies in a dish
for her at the end of the driveway. No go. He left his full bowl to run
her off.

You are some real narcissistic wordy bigmouth, lowbrowwoman! LOL No wonder
you got no one in RL to talk to (just like a few other demented senile
bigmouths trolling here). <G>

[Tekkie©]

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Post by rbowman

Post by Tekkie©
On Wed, 19 May 2021 19:47:01 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...

Post by rbowman

Post by GearGirl81
Wow could you possibly be more ignorant?! Cats have this little thing
they do, ya might of heard of it before, it's called "instinct"... Where
do you believe that comes from??? Humans did not create cats either,
however humans were the ones to forcibly domesticate them. I've never
once come across one of the creatures on the "right side" of any door.
Most do prefer to be outside fyi, regardless of what your preferences are.

Cat seems happy sitting on my lap getting petted but it's chilly and
rainy outside. If he gets the urge to go out he know enough to scratch
on the door. I didn't exactly domesticate him either. He was pretty
feral when I put some food out for other cats but soon decided regular
meals were a good thing and became territorial.

Cats are cats. Mine likes regular food, litter box, pets, etc. She trained me,
not the other way around. Rescue cat. Must be a PETA poster.

This one isn't big on pets. There are a couple of other cats that he
will tolerate eating from his bowl but mostly any cat that wanders in
the yard is in for an ass-kicking. A friendly tabby was rubbing my legs
when I was getting in the car yesterday so I put some Friskies in a dish
for her at the end of the driveway. No go. He left his full bowl to run
her off.

He's the Alpha male of the family!

[dafyddcoch]

Same argument applies to your good self! Do you go out? What about being run over by a car? Catching a disease from someone who hasn't washed their hands after going to the toilet or picking their nose, being chased by a viscous dog, mugged for your phone and or wallet (at least a cat hasn't got that to worry about!). Have you never come across the issues of animal mental health, animal wellbeing, animal psychology? Grow up and think about the animal's welfare instead of your own anthropomorphic 'feel good' emotions.Try reading a book about these issues and inform yourself

[lacksey]

On Fri, 13 May 2022 03:01:54 +1000, dafyddcoch

Post by dafyddcoch
Same argument applies to your good self! Do you go out? What about being
run over by a car? Catching a disease from someone who hasn't washed
their hands after going to the toilet or picking their nose, being
chased by a viscous dog, mugged for your phone and or wallet (at least a
cat hasn't got that to worry about!). Have you never come across the
issues of animal mental health, animal wellbeing, animal psychology?
Grow up and think about the animal's welfare instead of your own
anthropomorphic 'feel good' emotions.Try reading a book about these
issues and inform yourself.

Only 11 years this time.

[Peeler]

On Fri, 13 May 2022 05:46:41 +1000, lacksey, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

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[Stormin Mormon]

Brooklyn needs to be locked in a dark closet for the rest of
his life, for animal cruelty.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

Post by Brooklyn1
Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS...
you need to be
poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack
with a few
bricks and toss you into a lake.

Why would you keep your cats locked up inside?

Animal cruelty.

[Una]

Ah u must be American. most of yr urban wildlife- aka birds, small mammals, lizards etc already dead due to pussycats
Here in Australia, cats are considered feral animals altho they are still widespread as pets. They kill native birds, small possums, etc at a rate of about 100/year. Most rodent poisons have a secondary kill in them which takes out owls and other predators who eat the poisoned rodent.
Try the cement flour method and leave access to water right outside the building w the infestation. Might just do the trick without harm to native wildlife

[Frank]

Ah u must be American.  most of yr urban wildlife- aka birds, small
mammals, lizards etc already dead due to pussycats.
Here in Australia, cats are considered feral animals altho they are
still widespread as pets.  They kill native birds, small possums, etc at
a rate of about 100/year.  Most rodent poisons have a secondary kill in
them which takes out owls and other predators who eat the poisoned
rodent. Try the cement flour method and leave access to water right
outside the building w the infestation.  Might just do the trick without
harm to native wildlife.

Might be of interest to note that rodents cannot throw up. Once they
swallow a poison they can only excrete it. That is one reason why they
are used to test toxicity of substances.

[Rod Speed]

Post by Una
Ah u must be American. most of yr urban wildlife- aka birds, small
mammals, lizards etc already dead due to pussycats.
Here in Australia, cats are considered feral animals

So are humans.

Post by Una
altho they are still widespread as pets.

Funny that.

Post by Una
They kill native birds, small possums, etc at a rate of about 100/year.

Bullshit they do.

Post by Una
Most rodent poisons have a secondary kill in them which takes out owls and
other predators who eat the poisoned rodent.

They don’t get to eat the ones that die in my house.

Post by Una
Try the cement flour method and leave access to water right outside the
building w the infestation.

Doesn’t work.

Post by Una
Might just do the trick without harm to native wildlife.

More mindless bullshit.

Post by Una
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Pity that’s 10 years old. Try reading more often.

[Peeler]

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:22:46 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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[Una]

You need to keep them inside because they are adept murderers of wildlife. They say approximately 120 birds/mammals die yearly for each cat left to roam outside. CATS ARE FERAL ANIMALS HERE. I love cats but would never have one that roamed outside. I'd have a cat door into a screened outdoor cat room. Sorry but we've been slackers for far too long on this. IF you love cats...you gotta make the space to suit them. DIY wouldn't cost u much so that's the cost of responsible pet ownership

[Rod Speed]

Post by Una
You need to keep them inside because they are adept murderers of
wildlife. They say approximately 120 birds/mammals die yearly for each
cat left to roam outside.

Don't believe that stupid number with domestic cats.

Post by Una
CATS ARE FERAL ANIMALS HERE. I love catsbut would never have one that
roamed outside.

That is a very cruel way to treat a cat.

Post by Una
I'd have a cat door into a screened outdoor cat room.

That is nothing like what most cats want.

Post by Una
Sorry but we've been slackers for far too long on this. IF you love
cats...you gotta make the space to suit them. DIY wouldn't cost u much
so that's the cost of responsible pet ownership.

Bullshit.

[Peeler]

On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 14:12:45 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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[Stormin Mormon]

I guess you're too ignorant to know that cats are outdoor
animals. We'd better lock you in a dark closet for the rest
of your life.

Did anyone else catch the irony? Brookyn, condemning
cruelty, offers to use the same cruel technique he decries.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS... you
need to be
poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack
with a few
bricks and toss you into a lake.

[Kevin Kirkpatrick]

replying to Brooklyn1, Kevin Kirkpatrick wrote:
Living on a farm you have barn cats that live outside year round even in cold
climates. They are great hunters and the only issue is they get the song birds
too at times.

[Sassy]

replying to Brooklyn1, Sassy wrote:
I apologize but I couldn't help but laugh at what you said to that person. But
I do agree with you

[frosty.]

replying to Brooklyn1, frosty. wrote:
Cause they're cats you cretin, not goldfish.

Have your hysterics in a Safe Space with the other children.

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[Rusty Fox]

replying to Brooklyn1, Rusty Fox wrote:
OMG - cats outdoors? Are you kidding? Everybody knows that cats live in
houses. Before people kept cats as pets, cats used to build the most
magnificent houses from rainbows and wishes. They often had pet unicorns too,
who bred mice and rats for the cats to eat at parties they hosted for fairies
and elves and Santa and the Easter Bunny.

I doubt that you'd be capable of tying a knot.

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[bandmaster]

replying to Brooklyn1, bandmaster wrote:
Because cats are animals and they can live outside. Animals live their whole
lives outside.

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[David]

replying to Brooklyn1, David wrote:
Your comment is out of order. Nobody "needs to be poisoned" for making a
mistake.

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[Jaw]

I'd rather be free and have to deal with people like you and other risks than be locked up. Cats want to be free, how about you? Would you liked to be locked in your house with limited exercise, no way to socialize with others than fellow cell mates? Cats can't use the web so you couldn't have that eithe

[Bob F]

Post by Jaw
I'd rather be free and have to deal with people like you and other risks
than be locked up. Cats want to be free, how about you? Would you liked
to be locked in your house with limited exercise, no way to socialize
with others than fellow cell mates? Cats can't use the web so you
couldn't have that either

Would you like your neighbor's cat digging up your garden and
inoculating your spinach with deadly diseases?

[jbonnet]

replying to Billy, jbonnet wrote:
We bought a house last year and the previous owner put rat poison EVERYWHERE.
We are still finding packets tucked in corners of the house, and we are still
finding dead rats on the property (we live on 5 acres in the forest). We are
against the use of poisons because of the collateral damage such as pets.
Earlier this year we found the most gorgeous fox dead on our spring box -- it
was in search of water and likely died from eating a poisoned rat. If we
poison the rats and mice, we poison the beautiful forest we live in. Traps are
the way to go, if you must, but sealing up the house is the best option.

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[Kevin Kirkpatrick]

replying to ransley, Kevin Kirkpatrick wrote:
They smell the flour in the mixture and eat that getting cement as a by
product which kills them.

[Kevin Kirkpatrick]

replying to ransley, Kevin Kirkpatrick wrote:
THEY ARE SELLING IT. CEMENT...AND FLOUR....

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[Antoinette Blunt]

replying to ransley, Antoinette Blunt wrote:
Does your dog eat paper, wood, or peppermint? If yes to paper and pieces of
wood and no to any form of peppermint. I would be worried that your dog's diet
is like mice or rats, because they would eat just about anything.

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[Oren]

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...

Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.

video:

[Colbyt]

Post by Brooklyn1
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...
Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.
http://youtu.be/jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

[Billy]

Post by Colbyt
A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

I've thought about it, but the little rat keeps running away ;O)

[jellybean stonerfish]

Post by Billy

Post by Colbyt
A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

I've thought about it, but the little rat keeps running away ;O)

Time to bring the cats back into the thread....

[Kevin Kirkpatrick]

replying to jellybean stonerfish, Kevin Kirkpatrick wrote:
Cats work well also as rat and mice preventers. Especially outdoor barn cats
who live outside all the time

[Oren]

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:31:23 -0500, "Colbyt"

Post by Colbyt

Post by Brooklyn1
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...
Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.
http://youtu.be/jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Certainly. A hangman's noose for rats would possibly work.

[Harry K]

Post by Colbyt

Post by Brooklyn1
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I really would appreciate some advice.  Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...
Cheap: build one of these.  They work on mice and rats.
http://youtu.be/jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.

Harry K

[The Daring Dufas]

Post by Harry K

Post by Colbyt

Post by Brooklyn1
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...
Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.
http://youtu.be/jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.
Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)

TDD

[Oren]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:58:23 -0600, The Daring Dufas

Post by The Daring Dufas

Post by Harry K

Post by Colbyt

Post by Brooklyn1
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...
Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.
http://youtu.be/jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.
Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)
TDD

Speaking of "humane" disposition of rats and mice: Flour & cement
powder can't be an easy way to die.

A rat shows up in the local emergency room with a trap snapped around
his neck. No insurance or any papers.

The ER nurse exclaims: "You have to tell us what is wrong."

[The Daring Dufas]

Post by Oren
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:58:23 -0600, The Daring Dufas

Post by The Daring Dufas

Post by Harry K

Post by Colbyt

Post by Brooklyn1
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...
Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.
http://youtu.be/jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.
Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)
TDD

Speaking of "humane" disposition of rats and mice: Flour& cement
powder can't be an easy way to die.
A rat shows up in the local emergency room with a trap snapped around
his neck. No insurance or any papers.
The ER nurse exclaims: "You have to tell us what is wrong."

Back in the early 70's I had a handlebar on a Honda 750 snap off at
100mph. I hitched a ride to the emergency room and when I walked in,
a nurse rushed up to me and exclaimed "Oh my God you had a motorcycle
accident!" I answered "No lady I fell out of an airplane." She said
"Well come over here and fill out this paperwork." I was standing
there with blood dripping off the end of my fingers, my clothes were
tattered and bloody and my helmet looked like it had been pushed up
against a big grinding wheel at various angles. Another nurse walked
up and said to the first nurse "Shut up, put him in there." It was one
of the more interesting experiences in my life. :-)

TDD

[Bob Villa]

Post by The Daring Dufas

Post by Oren
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:58:23 -0600, The Daring Dufas

Post by The Daring Dufas

Post by Harry K

Post by Colbyt

Post by Brooklyn1
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I really would appreciate some advice.  Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...
Cheap: build one of these.  They work on mice and rats.
http://youtu.be/jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again.  One time was enough to turn my stomach.
Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)
TDD

Speaking of "humane" disposition of rats and mice: Flour&  cement
powder can't be an easy way to die.
A rat shows up in the local emergency room with a trap snapped around
his neck. No insurance or any papers.
The ER nurse exclaims:  "You have to tell us what is wrong."

Back in the early 70's I had a handlebar on a Honda 750 snap off at
100mph. I hitched a ride to the emergency room and when I walked in,
a nurse rushed up to me and exclaimed "Oh my God you had a motorcycle
accident!" I answered "No lady I fell out of an airplane." She said
"Well come over here and fill out this paperwork." I was standing
there with blood dripping off the end of my fingers, my clothes were
tattered and bloody and my helmet looked like it had been pushed up
against a big grinding wheel at various angles. Another nurse walked
up and said to the first nurse "Shut up, put him in there." It was one
of the more interesting experiences in my life. :-)
TDD

100mph! That's where you get your name!

[The Daring Dufas]

Post by Bob Villa

Post by The Daring Dufas

Post by Oren
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:58:23 -0600, The Daring Dufas

Post by The Daring Dufas

Post by Harry K

Post by Colbyt

Post by Brooklyn1
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...
Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.
http://youtu.be/jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.
Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)
TDD

Speaking of "humane" disposition of rats and mice: Flour& cement
powder can't be an easy way to die.
A rat shows up in the local emergency room with a trap snapped around
his neck. No insurance or any papers.
The ER nurse exclaims: "You have to tell us what is wrong."

Back in the early 70's I had a handlebar on a Honda 750 snap off at
100mph. I hitched a ride to the emergency room and when I walked in,
a nurse rushed up to me and exclaimed "Oh my God you had a motorcycle
accident!" I answered "No lady I fell out of an airplane." She said
"Well come over here and fill out this paperwork." I was standing
there with blood dripping off the end of my fingers, my clothes were
tattered and bloody and my helmet looked like it had been pushed up
against a big grinding wheel at various angles. Another nurse walked
up and said to the first nurse "Shut up, put him in there." It was one
of the more interesting experiences in my life. :-)
TDD

100mph! That's where you get your name!

Yea, I passed a tractor trailer rig that was doing 80 and I was on foot. :-0

TDD

[Oren]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:39:22 -0600, The Daring Dufas

Post by The Daring Dufas

Post by Oren
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:58:23 -0600, The Daring Dufas

Post by The Daring Dufas

Post by Harry K

Post by Colbyt

Post by Brooklyn1
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...
Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.
http://youtu.be/jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.
Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)
TDD

Speaking of "humane" disposition of rats and mice: Flour& cement
powder can't be an easy way to die.
A rat shows up in the local emergency room with a trap snapped around
his neck. No insurance or any papers.
The ER nurse exclaims: "You have to tell us what is wrong."

Back in the early 70's I had a handlebar on a Honda 750 snap off at
100mph. I hitched a ride to the emergency room and when I walked in,
a nurse rushed up to me and exclaimed "Oh my God you had a motorcycle
accident!" I answered "No lady I fell out of an airplane." She said
"Well come over here and fill out this paperwork." I was standing
there with blood dripping off the end of my fingers, my clothes were
tattered and bloody and my helmet looked like it had been pushed up
against a big grinding wheel at various angles. Another nurse walked
up and said to the first nurse "Shut up, put him in there." It was one
of the more interesting experiences in my life. :-)
TDD

In a fairly routine I would take individuals in the ER. The nurses
constantly would ask "what is wrong with him?"

Finely after getting a case of the ass, blurting out -- "this one has
4 - 6 stab wounds in his chest ... red foam is gurgling from his
chest... he ran out of air or is about to."

Then I told her to stabilize him and we can get 'em to "Danville".

[Sassy]

replying to The Daring Dufas, Sassy wrote:
Lol, I can't help it but you guys have me cracking up tonight, I swear I was
searching the recipe for the cement mouse bait so I can get rid of these
pathetic mice that seems to be too smart for my traps and I tell you I had
some stomach aching laughs tonight. Lol. I wish I could see the look on the
mouse face and I hope I catch these bastards and get rid of them ASAP and
hopefully they'll have the same look

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[Bill]

Most interestin

[Gas Bag]

Post by Gas Bag
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder.  They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water.  Once they drink some water....game over.  I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.
- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water?  The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.
- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice?  e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)?  I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.
- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?
I really would appreciate some advice.  Thanks.

Quite a lot of replies, but I am hoping someone can actually respond
specifically to my queries. Where I may place a flour/cement mix,
there would be no other animals, only rats or mice. Totally sealing
up the roofspace 100% is not a viable option at the moment.

[Brooklyn1]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 02:53:51 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder.  They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water.  Once they drink some water....game over.  I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.
- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water?  The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.
- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice?  e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)?  I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.
- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?
I really would appreciate some advice.  Thanks.

Quite a lot of replies, but I am hoping someone can actually respond
specifically to my queries. Where I may place a flour/cement mix,
there would be no other animals, only rats or mice.
Totally sealing up the roofspace 100% is not a viable option at the moment.

Why not?

[DeMouser]

the mix will only harden one time , if the cat eats the dead rodent it wont be harmed by the small hard rock in the rat belly.. i doubt the cat would eat the powder mix and dont put out enough to stop up a cats bowels which are larger than all mice and most rats... PetSafeDeMouser/RattRidder coming on the market soon ... pat.pending......

[Bob Villa]

Post by Gas Bag

Post by Gas Bag
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder.  They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water.  Once they drink some water....game over.  I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.
- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water?  The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.
- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice?  e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)?  I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.
- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?
I really would appreciate some advice.  Thanks.

Quite a lot of replies, but I am hoping someone can actually respond
specifically to my queries.  Where I may place a flour/cement mix,
there would be no other animals, only rats or mice.  Totally sealing
up the roofspace 100% is not a viable option at the moment.

What about mine..."D'CONcrete is whot make it work mon!"

[Kevin Kirkpatrick]

replying to Gas Bag, Kevin Kirkpatrick wrote:
I would out it outside around the house. They will find it I think.

[Dbryan]

I use this and it works great- I use a yogurt container to keep it contained and dry by the chickens.I use chick starter feed and cement

[Kevin Kirkpatrick]

replying to Gas Bag, Kevin Kirkpatrick wrote:
Tile grout will work too. It is very effective but I don't know how you can
know where they will die. I would put out straight flour for a week the add
cement. The lime in cement helps with smell somewhat . I never add anything to
it as I don't want it to spoil and smell. They est it just fine as is.

[Kevin Kirkpatrick]

replying to Gas Bag, Kevin Kirkpatrick wrote:
They can smell the flour from a long ways away. You have to understand they
are busy creatures and go quite a ways in search of food. I place it in dry
areas under trailers, along the side of the house, in the garage and barns.
Usually put out a pan of water too. They can smell that a long ways too I
believe.

[Kevin Kirkpatrick]

replying to Gas Bag, Kevin Kirkpatrick wrote:
Works extremely well. I go more flour to cement if they are reluctant to eat
it. Grout works fine.

[Robert]

replying to Gas Bag, Robert wrote:
This recipe works, I tried cornmeal ( 1 teaspoon) mixed it with 1 teaspoon of
hydraulic cement because I had some at home. Put it out in the deck where I
saw their droppings. In a day or two at the most, I got two of them drowned in
my swimming pool skimmer. It works very well. For those with pets, put it in a
mason jar, or something they can't get into. The corn meal may also attract
ants, so I used Diatomaceous Earth to kill them. Just sprinkle some of that
on the ants and they dehydrate and die. But for killing mice, this mixture
works very well and its cheap.

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[Kevin Kirkpatrick]

replying to Gas Bag, Kevin Kirkpatrick wrote:
There are no guarantees where they will die. I just use flour and cement.
Works every time.

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[Tdp]

replying to Gas Bag, Tdp wrote:
Did you get an answer to your question about mice? I cleaned my garage today
and suddenly saw one trying to climb up our brick into my bathroom window. I
want to kill them and deter them. I can't bait them. Do you have any new
ideas? Please email me - ***@yahoo.com. I'm terrified of them.

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[cj]

replying to Gas Bag, cj wrote:
I used the flour and cement mixture, then I just started using the cement
alone. To attract the rats I buy a bag of gum drops. I mash them up and run a
little water over them to make them sticky. I put them in a little container
and pour the cement over them. The rats love them. So far the rats/mice seem
to run outside. I've picked up dead ones outside. They don't seem to hide in
the walls or wherever. Dogs and cats are not attracted to this, and shouldn't
be harmed.-cj

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[Really Disgusted]

replying to Gas Bag, Really Disgusted wrote:
This is one of the most disturbing ideas I have heard in a long time. What an
incredibly slow and painful way to die. This is beyond cruel. Have you given
any thought to what you are considering? Perhaps the novel idea was funny at
first? This is demented.

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[Bf]

replying to Gas Bag, Bf wrote:
You need to also add a generous amount of salt, about 1tablespoon per mugfull
of mixture. Remove all drinking sources from inside and setup a few water
stations outside this will draw them out to drink so they don't die.inside

[Briscoe]

Sometimes you have to start with higher percentage of flour. They will die where they die. No guarantees. As they learn to eat it increase dry cement. At least my dogs and cats didn't eat it. Kills all rodents

[[e-mail]]

I guess you can alter the ingredients if you want but the old man who told me this used cement and flour as do I. There is no guarantee where they will die of course. I always but it outside away from the house and normally it kills everything within quite a distance.