Sentricon vs. Exterra

[Pete]

Are they the same or is one better?

thanks

[Lar]

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 00:51:49 -0400, "Pete" <***@adelphia.net>
wrote:

:)
:) Are they the same or is one better?

I always preferred the design of Exterra to Sentricon, less of a
chance of disturbing the termite activity thus slowing down results.
Exterra usually will cost less to install and maintain. They are
different active ingredients but work the same, both are inferior
treatment options.


Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!


It is said that the early bird gets the worm,
but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese.

[Jeff Ledford]

I usually don't disagree with Lar, and as far as Sentricon and exterra
are concerned, he's right. Baiting is a good option, but you need the
right system at the right price. Advance Termite Bait System is a MUCH
better system for termite control than Sentricon or Exterra. If
Termidor can be used, it will give you control much quicker, but it
also means using hundreds of gallons of chemical. Your choice.

Personally, I prefer to spot treat problem areas with Termidor and
allow the Advance to do the rest.

www.NiteNiteTermite.com

[b***@bugs.com]

Anyone willing to put a piece of wood in the yard and say your house is
protected from termites has got to be crazy. If baits are so great why is it
that Orkin and Terminix are phasing them out? Could it be that they are not
working? Yes there will be some hits on some stations, the same as there
will be some vehicles that have accidents but for the biggest part most
avoid them. Termites are no different. They can pass by a bait or a monitor
in the ground within 1/64th of an inch and not even know it is there, and
not be effected by it. To anyone that wants to have their house protected by
baits it would be about the same as gluing old tires on the side of your car
and then canceling your insurance expecting the tires to save the car in an
accident. There will be some accidents where the tires will actually work,
they will be very few. The only time I would ever suggest baits is if
Termidor, Phantom or Premise cannot be used, then I recommend the person
find someone that installs Exterra for them. I will not install baits in any
house, if it takes baits then I will not do the job. However I have went in
and treated several homes and removed the baiting system that was in place
and was not working.

[Jeff Ledford]

You should remember that some PCO's posting here will think that their
ideas are the only ones that have merit. Do your research - don't just
look here. Yes, you will get some good advice here, but you will also
get many opinions, and some of those are biased by previous employment
history with another company.

Do detailed research - look into both liquids and baits. The experts
who research these recommend a combined approach. PCO's in the field
often favor those that either (1) are the easiest for them to do or(2)
make them the most money. The best recommendation you can get is not
to listen to "crazy" talk, but do your own research. Then decide.

[b***@bugs.com]

Yeah there is all kinds of crazy talk going on. Here is some of the craziest
I have ever seen and it is from the article about the gentleman that
invented baits. Read this and ask yourself if this is what you would want
for your home.

The bait system targeted the species specifically, and most important, there
was no need to saturate the soil with toxic substances. Bordes said the plan
proved simple yet effective -- use the termites against themselves, a sort
of Trojan horse.
Five years into the war, there are signs that the city is moving in the
right direction. With the new approach, city officials say there's a
reduction in the number of termites caught in the sticky traps used to gauge
their populations.
But there are many battles left to fight a species that's been around for
thousands of years.
"We never promised we would [win], but we are making good progress," Su
said.

Five years into the war there are signs that the city is moving in the right
direction? Five Years, do you really want to wait that long to get things
going in the right direction, that isn't getting rid of the termites it is
simply moving in the right direction.

Then he says "We never promised we would {win}, but we are making good
progress," this article is about the city of New Orleans and the fight they
are having with the Formosan termites. They are a different species than
what we mostly deal with but even the Subterranean Termites why take a
chance on something that has been proven to fail over and over again.
Termidor has never failed when a complete treatment was done on a home. Also
They put it in writing they guarantee to get rid of the termites 100%
control within 90 days or less no exceptions no excuses. They don't say they
are moving in the right direction, they get rid of the termites end of
story.

If this is "crazy talk" I challenge you to do one thing, have the baits
installed and come back in a year and let us know how successful they were
or weren't. We will prove with that what crazy talk really is.

My advice is not biased by a former employer it is biased by research and by
what works.

[Mark]

Post by Jeff Ledford
You should remember that some PCO's posting here will think that their
ideas are the only ones that have merit. Do your research - don't just
look here. Yes, you will get some good advice here, but you will also
get many opinions, and some of those are biased by previous employment
history with another company.
Do detailed research - look into both liquids and baits. The experts
who research these recommend a combined approach. PCO's in the field
often favor those that either (1) are the easiest for them to do or(2)
make them the most money. The best recommendation you can get is not
to listen to "crazy" talk, but do your own research. Then decide.

Crazy talk...you're full of propaganda Jeff

[PCOpug]

Anyone willing to put a piece of wood in the yard and say your house is
protected from termites has got to be crazy. If baits are so great why is it
that Orkin and Terminix are phasing them out?

Baiting for termites is labor intensive.

Chemical treatment (shooting blind) can be done in one day. Renewal bills
can be mailed out monthly.

[Termite Killer]

Pug, I guess one should claim "termite monitoring" instead of "termite
protection" when talking about using a bait system. True, a liquid
treatment makes a "barrier" or "zone" around a structure, whereas bait
stations only monitor for activity until hit. And Termidor is the
absolute best liquid available today. But each situation should be
considered on it's needs and what will work for that customer. As all
professional exterminators know, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to
establish a complete, unbroken "barrier" or "zone" around most houses.
But Termidor is more forgiving, in that it's lack of repellency keeps
from driving termites to look for the gaps that exist. Even Termidor
is no silver bullet. There are increasing reports of treatment
failures, and probably, if truth were to be known, due in most part to
applicator error. However, some formosan colonies in New Orleans have
reestablished within 3 years of treatment with Termidor, so we need to
balance our claims. For me, it has not failed yet, and I know of many
others who can make the same claim. However, my money is on the
termite.

[Joel Mobley]

I have worked with both Sentricon and Exterra and have found both to be
about equal but the Sentricon is easier for the technician to check and
service.

Joel

Post by Termite Killer
Pug, I guess one should claim "termite monitoring" instead of "termite
protection" when talking about using a bait system. True, a liquid
treatment makes a "barrier" or "zone" around a structure, whereas bait
stations only monitor for activity until hit. And Termidor is the
absolute best liquid available today. But each situation should be
considered on it's needs and what will work for that customer. As all
professional exterminators know, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to
establish a complete, unbroken "barrier" or "zone" around most houses.
But Termidor is more forgiving, in that it's lack of repellency keeps
from driving termites to look for the gaps that exist. Even Termidor
is no silver bullet. There are increasing reports of treatment
failures, and probably, if truth were to be known, due in most part to
applicator error. However, some formosan colonies in New Orleans have
reestablished within 3 years of treatment with Termidor, so we need to
balance our claims. For me, it has not failed yet, and I know of many
others who can make the same claim. However, my money is on the
termite.